English open

[superx]

DC

Did I see yours and SC's names on score board for English -- looks like it
was a bit "stiff"

Dave

[KatieKrieghoff]

I thought it was ok, shot the sportrap first and there were some silly
losses, but overall the layouts were not silly.

The sporting course didnt have anything too daft, everything was
hittable and there werent really the deceptive targets that somewhere
like Hodnet can put on, started very well but got a little loose on
the latter half and too many slipped away.

Good one, very shootable, enjoyable and would love to do it again
today!

[David Christensen]

*Date:* 12 May 2007 03:29:00 -0700
I thought it was ok, shot the sportrap first and there were some silly
losses, but overall the layouts were not silly.
The sporting course didnt have anything too daft, everything was
hittable and there werent really the deceptive targets that somewhere
like Hodnet can put on, started very well but got a little loose on
the latter half and too many slipped away.

I thought some of the sporting targets were very hard to read - the
crossing diagonal white and orange clays (somewhere around stand 10 I
think) were bad for me. I don't feel I got within 5 yards of the white
one :(

Did you manage to get any of the long crosser on stand 13? Our squad of 6
managed 1 hit between us, and he'd looked away in disgust about half a
second before the end of his shot string caught up with the clay!

The other thing which made it slightly harder was the fact that it was 15
stands. Made it hard to find targets when yo only had 3 pairs on most of
them.

Overall I thought the shot ran very smoothly indeed though, with few
breakdowns or holdups.

DC

[KatieKrieghoff]

We are probably quite lucky as we have so many registered grounds to
shoot at within a reasonable travelling time. There wasnt anything
too out of the ordinary at this years English - in comparison to
Southern Counties and Hodnet - did you shoot those? Some of the
Classic stands can be 'different' too. Anyway .... .the deceptive
stand was the white up the bank and the incoming orange .... but the
same target was thrown at the British at Doberidge two years ago, so
not a **** how do you shoot that thing, more a case of hmmm they are
trying to deceive and 'finding it'. Our squad generally missed a
couple but overall it was ok.

The long crosser on stand 13? Was that at the bottom of the valley?
I got all of those hurrah .... the squad was hit and miss, finding it
after one or two misses. Experiences ranged from 'it needed 20 foot /
needed 6 foot' to my 'huh? I dont see lead'

I missed four on our opening stand - 3, the high incoming crossers,
one a battue that looked very close together but when on stand 4
looking back they were actually very far apart - bugger! Straighted
quite a few stands and dropped some silly ones and twos. The ****
moment was at the top of the valley, dustbin lid coming in and a
quartering away rabbit clay (airborne) I missed all first one - real
**** I guess that was the deception element but I know now how to
shoot it - too late huh.

It was pretty good and our wait between sportrap and sporting was a
few hours, we were on at 1 - not quite as bad as those finishing at
10:30 and having to shoot the sporting at 3 - yikes!

Enjoyed it and as I said - would like to do it again *sigh*

EM skeet next week, world sporting at Kibworth same day, British and
English all rounds the following week, cant remember whats after that
but then its the European FITASC - hmmm should be an experience!

SuperDave - do you have a list of the police shoots?

Ta

Post by David Christensen
I thought some of the sporting targets were very hard to read - the
crossing diagonal white and orange clays (somewhere around stand 10 I
think) were bad for me. I don't feel I got within 5 yards of the white
one :(
Did you manage to get any of the long crosser on stand 13? Our squad of 6
managed 1 hit between us, and he'd looked away in disgust about half a
second before the end of his shot string caught up with the clay!
The other thing which made it slightly harder was the fact that it was 1
stands. Made it hard to find targets when yo only had 3 pairs on most of
them.
Overall I thought the shot ran very smoothly indeed though, with few
breakdowns or holdups.
DC

[newsreader]

Everyone sees them differently - as you say.

Post by KatieKrieghoff
We are probably quite lucky as we have so many registered grounds to
shoot at within a reasonable travelling time. There wasnt anything
too out of the ordinary at this years English - in comparison to
Southern Counties and Hodnet - did you shoot those? Some of the
Classic stands can be 'different' too. Anyway .... .the deceptive
stand was the white up the bank and the incoming orange .... but the
same target was thrown at the British at Doberidge two years ago, so
not a **** how do you shoot that thing, more a case of hmmm they are
trying to deceive and 'finding it'. Our squad generally missed a
couple but overall it was ok.
The long crosser on stand 13? Was that at the bottom of the valley?
I got all of those hurrah .... the squad was hit and miss, finding it
after one or two misses. Experiences ranged from 'it needed 20 foot /
needed 6 foot' to my 'huh? I dont see lead'

snip...

[David Christensen]

*Date:* 12 May 2007 19:22:14 -0700
We are probably quite lucky as we have so many registered grounds to
shoot at within a reasonable travelling time. There wasnt anything
too out of the ordinary at this years English - in comparison to
Southern Counties and Hodnet - did you shoot those?

Southern Counties, yes. Hodnet, no.

The long crosser on stand 13? Was that at the bottom of the valley?
I got all of those hurrah .... the squad was hit and miss, finding it
after one or two misses. Experiences ranged from 'it needed 20 foot /
needed 6 foot' to my 'huh? I dont see lead'

Stand at the bottom of the valley, clay at the top.

EM skeet next week, world sporting at Kibworth same day, British and
English all rounds the following week, cant remember whats after that
but then its the European FITASC - hmmm should be an experience!

I think I'm going for Cambs ABT instead of EM ESK next weekend.

Where are the British/English All Rounds? I can't see them advertised
anywhere!

DC

[David Christensen]

*Date:* Fri, 11 May 2007 21:04:32 +0100
DC
Did I see yours and SC's names on score board for English -- looks like
it was a bit "stiff"
Dave

You did. It was "stiff" but probably no stiffer than you'd expect a
national to be. The STR was not at all silly, I just couldn't get my head
together and shot appallingly (65). If I'd been on form I think I could
have landed an 80, but I just wasn't in the groove. Getting up at 6am to
drive there probably didn't help :(

The only real complaint I had on the STR was the cages which were a) a bit
narrow but mainly b) not tall enough. I was hitting my head on the
crossbars quite often. At least some of them had crossbars at about eye
level for me.

The sporting was a little more challenging, but mainly because as a
Cambridgeshire shooter I can't cope with slopes! Most of the targets that
were against the sky I had much less trouble with than the ones against
sloping hillsides. The other problem which is surprisingly off-putting
for a flat-earth shooter is standing on sloping stands and shooting. My
59 (in A class!) was more of a reflection of my lack of experience with
the terrain than an absurdly hard layout.

DC
[Anyway, my other excuse is that I'd used up my shooting mojo for the week
with a 90 in all-round on Monday :) ]

[superx]

David

I sympathise with you on sloping grounds if you are not used to it - I
occasionally shoot at Catton Hall and in wood there are stands with clays
well below your feet - a steep learning curve. -I lost my head there at
Easter and ripped card up with 5 stands to go -must be getting old--- Glad
you all enjoyed it

Dave

Post by David Christensen

*Date:* Fri, 11 May 2007 21:04:32 +0100
DC
Did I see yours and SC's names on score board for English -- looks like
it was a bit "stiff"
Dave

You did. It was "stiff" but probably no stiffer than you'd expect a
national to be. The STR was not at all silly, I just couldn't get my head
together and shot appallingly (65). If I'd been on form I think I could
have landed an 80, but I just wasn't in the groove. Getting up at 6am to
drive there probably didn't help :(
The only real complaint I had on the STR was the cages which were a) a bit
narrow but mainly b) not tall enough. I was hitting my head on the
crossbars quite often. At least some of them had crossbars at about eye
level for me.
The sporting was a little more challenging, but mainly because as a
Cambridgeshire shooter I can't cope with slopes! Most of the targets that
were against the sky I had much less trouble with than the ones against
sloping hillsides. The other problem which is surprisingly off-putting
for a flat-earth shooter is standing on sloping stands and shooting. My
59 (in A class!) was more of a reflection of my lack of experience with
the terrain than an absurdly hard layout.
DC
[Anyway, my other excuse is that I'd used up my shooting mojo for the week
with a 90 in all-round on Monday :) ]

[superx]

Katie :-))

You missed one last sat at Grimsthorpe
Depends on what Police shoot you want - if you can find Aprils Clay Shooting
magazine all shoots are listed on page80 but here are next few
23rd 100 sp Doveridge
26th 100sp at Mid Norfolk
1st June 100 at Oriston
The next few involve travelling then back to local
19th July 100 at Doveridge
1st August100 at Kibworth
13th Sept 100 all round at Doveridge
in between these are shoots up and down country

Dave

Post by superx
David
I sympathise with you on sloping grounds if you are not used to it - I
occasionally shoot at Catton Hall and in wood there are stands with clays
well below your feet - a steep learning curve. -I lost my head there at
Easter and ripped card up with 5 stands to go -must be getting old--- Glad
you all enjoyed it
Dave

Post by David Christensen

*Date:* Fri, 11 May 2007 21:04:32 +0100
DC
Did I see yours and SC's names on score board for English -- looks like
it was a bit "stiff"
Dave

You did. It was "stiff" but probably no stiffer than you'd expect a
national to be. The STR was not at all silly, I just couldn't get my head
together and shot appallingly (65). If I'd been on form I think I could
have landed an 80, but I just wasn't in the groove. Getting up at 6am to
drive there probably didn't help :(
The only real complaint I had on the STR was the cages which were a) a bit
narrow but mainly b) not tall enough. I was hitting my head on the
crossbars quite often. At least some of them had crossbars at about eye
level for me.
The sporting was a little more challenging, but mainly because as a
Cambridgeshire shooter I can't cope with slopes! Most of the targets that
were against the sky I had much less trouble with than the ones against
sloping hillsides. The other problem which is surprisingly off-putting
for a flat-earth shooter is standing on sloping stands and shooting. My
59 (in A class!) was more of a reflection of my lack of experience with
the terrain than an absurdly hard layout.
DC
[Anyway, my other excuse is that I'd used up my shooting mojo for the week
with a 90 in all-round on Monday :) ]

[David Christensen]

*Date:* Fri, 11 May 2007 21:04:32 +0100
DC
Did I see yours and SC's names on score board for English -- looks like
it was a bit "stiff"

1st Bidell 92
2nd= JJ Allaway 91
N Hendrick


Dunno who Mr Allaway is. B class. CPSA number around 100000 mark.
Previous high score for registered sporting=71

I'll have a pint of what he's having please barman!

DC

[KatieKrieghoff]

Jason Allaway is a local ish shooter, he is very good, not a Faulds
but always up there - certainly not a B class shot.

The British / English All Rounds never get much publicity - they are
on consecutive days Sat & Sun, first week in june I think - at East
Yorkshire Gun Club

[David Christensen]

*Date:* 13 May 2007 10:15:34 -0700
Jason Allaway is a local ish shooter, he is very good, not a Faulds
but always up there - certainly not a B class shot.

Ah. Well is lurking is now over, I think!

The British / English All Rounds never get much publicity - they are
on consecutive days Sat & Sun, first week in june I think - at East
Yorkshire Gun Club

In what why is it "British" or "English"? Is it endorsed by the CPSA?

DC

[David Christensen]

*Date:* Sun, 13 May 2007 22:26:56 GMT

*Date:* 13 May 2007 10:15:34 -0700
Jason Allaway is a local ish shooter, he is very good, not a Faulds
but always up there - certainly not a B class shot.

Ah. Well is lurking is now over, I think!

/is/his/

You know what I mean...

DC

[KatieKrieghoff]

These are the pukka CPSA championships - you get placed in these and
your are the British / English Champion / Class winner

Until maybe last year (?) they were held at seperate times in the
year, I guess someone thought 'ah screw it, its not that popular a
discipline get it all out of the way in one go'

So yes this is the real deal and they are enjoyable shoots henerally -
look at the EM one -

Single barrel - no real excuses for missing, maybe one or two?
Skeet - again, should get all these, loss of concentration maybe drop
one?
ABT - most likely to drop targets on this, but can go well, I was
shocked to get away with a 23.
Sporting - at EM, sporting was very easy, having said that i dropped
two rabbits and a gimme on stand one - but it was straightable

So totting this up, I should have got late 90's - I didnt because I'm
a doofus but hey ....

EYGC .... SB / Skeet / ABT 'should' all be the same wherever you shoot
them, on the day things like scenery and the pressure you put on
yourself make you screw up. However the sporting course should be a
tad more challenging at EYGC.

As you know, anyone could have won the AR you, me, Dom .... a margin
of 4 between a C class win and High Gun is pretty good / frustrating
(depending on mood!) .....

Post by David Christensen
In what why is it "British" or "English"? Is it endorsed by the CPSA?
DC

[David Christensen]

*Date:* 14 May 2007 04:43:18 -0700
These are the pukka CPSA championships - you get placed in these and
your are the British / English Champion / Class winner
So yes this is the real deal and they are enjoyable shoots henerally -
look at the EM one -
Single barrel - no real excuses for missing, maybe one or two?
Skeet - again, should get all these, loss of concentration maybe drop
one?
ABT - most likely to drop targets on this, but can go well, I was
shocked to get away with a 23.
Sporting - at EM, sporting was very easy, having said that i dropped
two rabbits and a gimme on stand one - but it was straightable

Interestingly I was talking to Saint Barry about all round, and he said
that he always finds SB the most challenging because there is too much of
a tendency to want to be too sure because you've only got one shot.

So totting this up, I should have got late 90's - I didnt because I'm
a doofus but hey ....

We should form a club :)

As you know, anyone could have won the AR you, me, Dom .... a margin
of 4 between a C class win and High Gun is pretty good / frustrating
(depending on mood!) .....

There's always next year. It's nice to be within "if only" distance
though!

DC