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r***@btinternet.com
2006-03-18 08:17:49 UTC
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I'm a 50 year old who's thinking about returning to the sport (Skeet
and Trap) after a 20 year layoff.

Quite a few changes out there (except for cartridge prices which are
about the same as they were in 1980) I understand, especially those
regarding the environment (eg biodegradable wads, non toxic shot,
quieter cartridges etc).

I've also noticed that shot loads are 28g and 24g in the main. I'm
pretty sure I always used to use 32g (1 1/8 oz). Is that load not
allowed anymore? When did that change come about?

While I'm here, does anyone know if Kingsferry Gun Club on the Isle of
Sheppey in Kent is still going? I tried to email the Club secretary at
his published address and the mail bounced.

Thanks in advance

Richard
David Christensen
2006-03-19 19:38:09 UTC
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Post by r***@btinternet.com
I'm a 50 year old who's thinking about returning to the sport (Skeet
and Trap) after a 20 year layoff.
Welcome back!
Post by r***@btinternet.com
I've also noticed that shot loads are 28g and 24g in the main. I'm
pretty sure I always used to use 32g (1 1/8 oz). Is that load not
allowed anymore? When did that change come about?
Most grounds have a limit of 28g these days. The official rules have been
24g for Olympic disciplines and 28g for everything else except FITASC for
at least 3 years [as long as I've been shooting]: FITASC came down to 28g
last year IIRC.

Lots of studies into the effect of recoil on high volume shooters, and a
fair argument that as long as the playing field is level, who cares?
Post by r***@btinternet.com
While I'm here, does anyone know if Kingsferry Gun Club on the Isle of
Sheppey in Kent is still going? I tried to email the Club secretary at
his published address and the mail bounced.
I believe so. Aren't they the guys who are saying non-lead shot, and
saying that after an initial adjustment period everyone is getting on just
fine that way. There's certainly been an article on them in Pull! in
recent memory, so if they're shut it's recent.

Presumably you're aware of the compulsory hearing and eye protection at
most events as well?

DC
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2006-03-19 20:16:10 UTC
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Post by David Christensen
Presumably you're aware of the compulsory hearing and eye protection at
most events as well?
Is this enforced at all for the eye protection?
I was at Kibworth today for the CPSA 100 sporting, with a number of
officiais present (it was 1st selection shoot for the Leics. team), and
there were a number of people without any glasses on at all.I usually
where a pair of sunglass type wrap-round glasses, but had forgotten them
today, so wore my usual daywear glasses, and got no comment at all from
anyone, yet the previous week on the skeet ground, I was told everyone
should wear eye protection when doing a registered shoot.
Are there any regs on this?
If there are, I presume these glasses must meet some kind of quality
approval?
Ta
Alan.
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David Christensen
2006-03-20 00:07:17 UTC
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*Date:* Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:16:10 +0000
Post by David Christensen
Presumably you're aware of the compulsory hearing and eye protection at
most events as well?
Is this enforced at all for the eye protection?
I was at Kibworth today for the CPSA 100 sporting, with a number of
officiais present (it was 1st selection shoot for the Leics. team), and
there were a number of people without any glasses on at all.I usually
where a pair of sunglass type wrap-round glasses, but had forgotten them
today, so wore my usual daywear glasses, and got no comment at all from
anyone, yet the previous week on the skeet ground, I was told everyone
should wear eye protection when doing a registered shoot.
Are there any regs on this?
If there are, I presume these glasses must meet some kind of quality
approval?
Ta
Alan.
For a CPSA registered shoot, eye protection must be worn. The regulations
are slightly vague:

"The wearing of adequate and effective visible eye protection by shooters,
trappers, officials and spectators at or around any shooting position at
all registered shoots is mandatory. The C.P.S.A. recommends that this
protection be to a minimum standard of BS EN 166F."

As a result, the observed practice that I have seen is that as long as
your eyes are covered in some way, people won't object.

My understanding is that the intention is to protect against fragments of
clay or stray shot, rather than defence against someone shooting in your
direction [although Pull! did do an interesting test of shooting at
glasses on a pole at 20m].

Total absence of eye protection at a registered shoot should have caused
comment and correction, or disqualification.

DC
r***@btinternet.com
2006-03-20 07:17:43 UTC
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Thanks for the info.

Yet another change is the barrel lengths that are currently advocated.
Much longer than the 26" (IC/IC) that I used for every discipline
(using differrent cartridge types/loads dependent on kill point
distance) other than UT. For that I used 28" (F and F). I still have
the short barrelled gun so shall dust it off and see how things go.

Thanks again.

Richard
r***@btinternet.com
2006-03-20 07:18:20 UTC
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Thanks for the info.

Yet another change is the barrel lengths that are currently advocated.
Much longer than the 26" (IC/IC) that I used for every discipline
(using different cartridge types/loads dependent on kill point
distance) other than UT. For that I used 28" (F and F). I still have
the short barrelled gun so shall dust it off and see how things go.

Thanks again.

Richard

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